- some other things stickx.

if you can get away mixing 3 sources (i'm not even sure the ms-20 has two oscillators)...ring mod'd osc+noise fm'd osc+noise. that is something to try. maybe with different filtering on the oscs and noise. seperate vca envelopes for the osc's and noise would also be helpfull.

your typical three part hh is just reusing the same sources three times with different vca envelopes to achieve an open, closed, and i think cymbal type sounds. short, little longer, much longer.

you'll need to play with the tuning of the 2 osc's to get a clangy inharmonic type sound....but twiddling knobs is fun :).

and....if you can...try fm'ing that osc with noise by sticking the noise out into a pitch mod in, AND the key track (might be called something else) in.

without getting into the specifics, one i think will be logarithmically scalled (pitch mod), the other will be linearly scalled (key track in). the fm you know and love is linearly scalled audio rate modulation of an oscillators pitch.

I THINK....i can't find the specifics off hand. but i seem to recall that being somewhat correct if not bastardized a little bit.

report back!

castol

STicKX.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  10:16AM )

- Uhm, The frequency of the noise on OSC1 can't be modulated (I think)

Also, if it's of any help, there are three noise sources: VCO1 noise (white noise) and on the patch pad there are two noises, one white and one pink.

Two filter routings: the usual LP and HP filter section and (on the ext signal pad) a HP and LP section (could be only LP a can't recall right now :)

Two Envelopes: one HADSR and one DAR (delay attack and release)

Link: http://home.wxs.nl/~adema145/index.html

STicKX

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castol.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  11:17AM )

- well, i got a bit wee confused. fm'ing an oscillator with noise is basically going to make pitchable noise.

you want clangy sounds. the fm idea still holds up, but i don't think you'll get very predictable results ring mod'ing the first osc with the second, and then fm'ing the second osc with the first. it will create a weird sort of feedback, which will probobly sound cool :)...but not give you a very good clangy sound...probobly.

i'm just giving ideas. i don't own an ms-20 (looking at the patch panel made my head swim...), your the one who is going to have to work his magic on recreating them :)

unless you can find someone who has patch diagrams made on an ms-20 to make what you want.

reading that sos tut is a good base for these ideas.

not relevant to hihats but...you may find this intersting (i did).

http://www.creamware.de/en/Downloa d/modular/mod_tutorials/tut2.asp

castol

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castol.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  11:18AM )

- remove the space in Downloa d...

castol

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STicKX.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  11:24AM )

- Thanks castrol!!!!!!!

And you to hv909!

STicKX

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castol.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  11:31AM )

- your welcome...i hope i wasn't to condescending, i didn't mean to be.

i'm not motor oil nor paying ahmage to a cuban dictator....what could i be? hehe. :)

castol

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STicKX.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  11:36AM )

- hehehe sorry, Castol :)

I stink!

STicKX

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STicKX.... Re:Analog hihats... (15-May-02  11:36AM )

- Shoot me :)

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